Arguing with the Tea Party

Let us face the facts, you can not argue with a Tea Party supporter. I have tried, and it wastes time. These people are insane and highly delusional. I recently had two separate debates with Tea Party supporters and I am going to share the things I have said. The debates are not over, but anything I said was immediately shot down to how I hate wealthy people and I am Un American. I did my duty and served, that is how Un-American I am. I will not post what the person said in defense, to provide the ignorance with privacy, and I can’t promote lies.

The first debate was a listing that read “Do Tea Party People Hate?”:

It seems the tea party itself is always trying to hide things. I have found numerous accounts for racism. However, it is not just racism that disturbs me it is also the obvious lies the tea party tells the American people.

When the candidates for the November elections were backed by the tea party  they were all for freedom, the Constitution, and jobs. Each and every elected candidate that was backed by the tea party is taking away basic Constitutional rights. I am very disturbed by reading and hearing by several reputable sources that the tea party is backed by major corporations that have stake in what these elected officials do and say. All of the billions of dollars these corporations put into elections is another scary thing.

Why are they spending all this money on candidates when they should be hiring more people. Every elected tea party member has not backed their word to do what they set out to do and I can give numerous accounts for this. I wont bother at this point, you already know this.
I can not back the Tea Party I do not believe anything they say when I know big corporations are the major players. These companies are bringing down the US. On your Patriot website it shows Tea Party supporters talking about pretending to be Union workers and trying to make them look bad at the rally’s. I know you say the left have done that. This whole left and right thing is hate as well. We are all Americans we all want the same things why can we not work together for the greater good of our country. This is all about Americans rights, lining politicians pockets should be the last thing on our minds.
This shows the level of education the Tea Party supporters have
Seriously, you are going to use youtube as evidence when I have proof that the Tea Party planted people at the Union rally’s to make the workers look bad. The Tea Party may have some educated people, but that is mainly because majority are elderly. The majority of tea party supporters are also misinformed and delusional. (Proof about the Tea Party plot is at the end)

You talk about liberty and freedom why would Tea Party backed candidates take away middle class rights? That is exactly what every surrounding state of mine is doing. Thank God my state has a Democratic Governor.

I am not reading a book you suggest. I have no time for that. I go to school full time, I’m a wife, Mother of three, I work part-time, and I am the Vice President of my community board. I am currently reading Profiles in Courage, although I have read it before it is a requirement for one of the classes I am taking. It is more informative then any book you can suggest. These American hero’s would be welcomed in our Government today.

The question at hand, Capitalism, well you may argue it is good for someone like you. It is bad for me and let me tell you why. It promotes privatization and greed, the average person does not prosper in a capitalist society, as usual like Reaganomics the wealthy get wealthier the poor get extremely poor. It is a win for the wealthy and the downfall of the US. How could you say that Capitalism is a good thing unless you were the CEO of say BP? Capitalism is Fascism at it’s best. While I agree with small business, Capitalism is good in that aspect. Like I have said for the average Joe it is a terrible thing. Yes you work for what you get, but when the economy is terrible, there are no jobs, how does someone who does not have a job prosper?

I now need to question the Tea Party values, with Socialism there is a much smaller government which the Tea Party is said to be all for. Why are you so against Socialism? I understand if you work hard for your money you want to keep it. I get that, but what about the poor people without jobs? The wealthy think they can give them a dollar and all is forgiven? The main problem with Capitalism is the people it makes even more wealthy, like they need it. I am not saying Socialism is the answer, but there is an answer somewhere out there and Capitalism is not the way to go. For the record Socialism has not been tried in the US.

Do not start on the Union that will not help your case. To be against teachers, fire fighters, police that protect us is sick. If they end Unions if you are ever in need of police or fire good luck with that. It is a way to get rid of the middle class and have two classes poor and rich and I can tell you are not poor, before you were retired I’m sure you made at least three figures a year. If I am correct and this is true, you have no right to speak for any middle American because you in fact do not know what you are talking about. For you to say that teachers make lavish salaries is a highly UNTRUE statement and the same goes for the Police and Fire fighters. My mother-in-law works for the city of Chicago and she is no way making a lavish salary. She gets paid decently but works her butt off. That rally was for rights of workers and it should be done. That is in the first amendment I recommend you re-read the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, Federalist Papers, and The Bill of Rights. You are clearly mistaken.

I then posted this at the end: courtesy of the Tea Party Patriot website
Mark Williams News & Commentary
Reporting from Occupied America and fighting for Liberty

on February 20, 2011 by Mark Williams in Mark Williams News & Commentary, Comments (0)
That link will take you to an SEIU page where you can sign up as an “organizer” for one of their upcoming major rallies to support the union goons in Wisconsin.
Here is what I am doing in Sacramento, where they are holding a 5:30 PM event this coming Tuesday: (1) I signed up as an organizer (2) with any luck they will contact me and I will have an “in” (3) in or not I will be there and am asking as many other people as can get there to come with, all of us in SEIU shirts (those who don’t have them we can possibly buy some from vendors likely to be there) (4) we are going to target the many TV cameras and reporters looking for comments from the members there (5) we will approach the cameras to make good pictures… signs under our shirts that say things like “screw the taxpayer!” and “you OWE me!” to be pulled out for the camera (timing is important because the signs will be taken away from us) (6) we will echo those slogans in angry sounding tones to the cameras and the reporters. (7) if I do get the ‘in’ I am going to do my darnedest to get podium access and take the mic to do that rant from there…with any luck and if I can manage the moments to build up to it, I can probably get a cheer out of the crowd for something extreme.

WARNING: When around these union events do NOT instigate ANY physical confrontation, walk away from anyone who tries to start one with you. These people WILL have a mob mentality and ARE dangerous
Since I have radio shows to host in Fresno tomorrow (KMJ FM and KMJ AM) I am going to try to gin up some support from down there and salt the crowd here with more people.
Several Tea Party chapters around the country are planning to join with me, if you are a member of one in your area please contact them for details. If they are not participating get them to!
Chances are that because I am publishing this they’ll catch wind, but it is worth the chance if you take it upon yourself to act…there’s only one of me but there are millions of you and I know that you CAN do this!
Our goal is to make the gathering look as greedy and goonish as we know that it is, ding their credibility with the media and exploit the lazy reporters who just want dramatic shots and outrageous quotes for headlines. Even if it becomes known that we are plants the quotes and pictures will linger as defacto truth.
That’s really the way it works folks, time to use this weapon against the enemy.
Contact me if you can help with the Sacramento event

I will post the next discussion some other time, it is amazing what these people believe. Please do research before backing any crazy scam like the Tea Party!

Ignorance is on your side!

I’m getting really irritated by these insane politicians! Do they really think anyone wants to vote for people like this? Between all the lies they tell and all the money they steal. I don’t think anyone can keep up. Including the FBI, it sickens me!
When hard working Americans bust their ass to make a buck, these assholes are out there trying to do anything within their power to steal it from us. I’m so tired of it I could scream.
This Tea Party stuff is becoming extremely disturbing, there is no way in hell that this is the change we need. You really want someone like Sarah Palin running our country? It would fall to pieces. It’s not just her annoying voice, it’s what she says. Her ignorance is  mind boggling it’s almost child like. I wasn’t aware that anyone could be that unintelligent. The Tea Party wants you to believe that they are on your side when in fact it’s the complete opposite. I just picture a bunch of suits sitting around thinking of ways to fuck the American people. It’s unfortunate that Americans that just want to think someone is on their side is falling for this.
It’s truly nauseating for me to watch, but it some ways intriguing The Fox News Network. I guess it’s like a train wreck, you just can’t stop watching. Some of the things I’ve seen the past few days on that network amaze me. People are just eating that stuff up too. If anyone goes out on election day. I think very few people will, but if you do PLEASE I beg you for my children please do NOT vote any tea party member. Id say Republican, but that’s a lost cause. There are too many people out there that have money or that don’t and will still vote for them. It’s your choice of course, kind of like abortion. If you want to kill your unborn child vote for a conservative.
Glenn Beck, really I don’t have to say much about him. He makes himself look like an ass all on his own. The other day I watched his show and noticed he seems to be a manic depressive. Some days he’s all hyped up and others he seems like Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh. He goes on and on about what you should and shouldn’t do. Here’s some advice for the Beck fans, think for yourself! Why listen to someone who is doing a “job” that he is getting paid extremely well for. He says whatever the highest bidder wants him to say. So really if you have a brain in your head you will go with your gut. Try not to listen to what some arrogant ignorant person says. You will be hurting yourself and your pocket book. If you really want change, only buy American, hard to do I know. It seem everything we buy cars, electronics, toys, anything at WalMart, is made in China. So technically all you are doing when you are consuming the shit you don’t need anyway is making the Chinese economy flourish!
So be it right? What is worse than the Beck-idiots are the people that don’t give a damn either way. X-Box just came out with a game or shut up CSI is on. Really people, use the brains that God, Evolution, your higher power, or however you believe in gave you and get a damn clue. That stuff fills your head with junk you really can do without! I must say, yes 911 was bad, but to persecute every Muslim is irresponsible! When I hear, read, or see that people want to get rid of all the Mosques it just doesn’t make sense. For someone like Glenn Beck especially, he continuously talks about the US Constitution and how we need to uphold it. In our Constitution it clearly states in the First Amendment Freedom of Religion that was ratified 12/15/1791:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
Everyone seems to want a free country, however you can not be free without being able to practice your religion. It’s a personal choice ones religion. I may not believe what my neighbor believes regarding religion, so be it. I’m not going to rally around his church to protest it. That’s just craziness, not every Muslim in the word wants to blow up a building, or set fire to a day care center. You can’t blame a whole religion on an act of a few people. Technically, I can’t say I fully agree with what the findings from 911 were according to the Government and the media. It wouldn’t surprise me if George W was in on that himself. It was a tragedy, and there should be no blame game played. It happened, people were hurt, killed, lives were ruined, but to say we should shut out a whole religion from the act of suicide bombers is ludicrous. So wake up America and smell the bullshit, your lively-hood may just depend on it! Next blog will mainly be about Goldline, they have irritated me to a new level, I really don’t want sales calls. I can get over the normal, “do you pay too much for health insurance?” Not the calls from Goldline, more to come from my favorite scamming company in future blogs.
I will leave you all with a great quote, it reminds me of Glenn Beck with all his crazy the world is ending scenarios.
Ralph Waldo Emerson(American Poet, Lecturer and Essayist, 18031882)